UNITE-HERE Midwest (including Michigan) Endorses John Edwards

Nope (4.00 / 2)

Edwards is not following the RULES. If he wants Michigan's votes, he has to actually campaign here.

Sorry phil, but RULES are RULES.

Nothing is easier than solving a problem on the back of the poor. People who don't have lobbyists or clout.

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by: yvette248 @ Thu Dec 06, 2007 at 18:03:18 PM UTC

He will be (4.00 / 3)

for a 2/9 caucus.

Wanna bet?

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by: greee @ Thu Dec 06, 2007 at 18:11:57 PM UTC

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Edwards Has Been to Michigan Several Times (4.00 / 2)

Edwards Speech at the MDP Jefferson-Jackson Dinner in April (with video): http://michiganforedwards.blog...

Edwards in Detroit in June: http://michiganforedwards.blog...

Elizabeth in Grand Rapids in September: http://michiganforedwards.blog... and http://michiganforedwards.blog...

West Michigan Rising: The Progressive Blog for Our (future) Left Coast

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by: philgoblue @ Thu Dec 06, 2007 at 18:32:21 PM UTC

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ba ha (4.00 / 2)

The MDP is currently considering holding an illegal "primary" against their own rules and DNC rules.

West Michigan Rising: The Progressive Blog for Our (future) Left Coast

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by: philgoblue @ Thu Dec 06, 2007 at 18:33:11 PM UTC

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congrats (0.00 / 0)

on your matching REC diary at dkos!

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by: memiller @ Thu Dec 06, 2007 at 19:55:00 PM UTC

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unite here, isn't that the group that dissed the AFL-CIO? (0.00 / 0)

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by: Cole6015 @ Thu Dec 06, 2007 at 22:48:17 PM UTC

If you really have something to add (2.00 / 2)

write it and link to it.  If you want to be a malcontent lurker, try Redstate.org.

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by: greee @ Fri Dec 07, 2007 at 01:13:42 AM UTC

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My bad ... I thought everyone knew. Google John Sweeney and AFL-CIO and Unite Here (4.00 / 2)

"It's far easier to tear down a union movement than to build one.  America's working people cannot afford for unions to declare 'it's my way or the highway' when workers are under the biggest assault in 80 years.  Unity and solidarity are the cornerstone of our strength."  

...John Sweeney, President, AFL-CIO

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by: Cole6015 @ Fri Dec 07, 2007 at 12:13:37 PM UTC

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Thank you. I was not aware of that comment. (4.00 / 1)

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by: greee @ Fri Dec 07, 2007 at 12:15:26 PM UTC

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I was a huge supporter of Edwards in 2004 (4.00 / 2)

But then I saw how little influence Michigan, the Michigan Democratic Party/Caucus, and my own participation had on the Democratic nomination that year.

So being an Edwards supporter in '04 led me to oppose not only a late caucus (and in 2008 February 9th, is late) but the entire system where Iowa & New Hampshire determine the Democratic nominee and the other 48 states have virtually no say in the matter.

Although Michigan still won't have a say in the Democratic nominee in 2008, I have confidence that Michigan's and Florida's protests will lead to a more democratic system in 2012 and beyond.

"I never did give anybody hell. I just told the truth and they thought it was hell." -- Harry S Truman

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by: Butch Snider @ Fri Dec 07, 2007 at 01:47:57 AM UTC

According to Dingell and Anuzis (4.00 / 3)

you are right about 2012, as long as you know the answer to the following question:

Heads or Tails?

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by: greee @ Fri Dec 07, 2007 at 01:54:41 AM UTC

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Sorry (2.00 / 2)

after seeing the Breck Boy get his rear handed to him by Cheney in the one debate they had there is no way I can support him.  If you don't have the guts to stick a shiv in Darth Cheney there is no way you can be President.

"Win if you can, lose is you must, but ALWAYS cheat!" -- Jesse Ventura

"Whether you like it or not, learn to love it, because its the best thing going. Wooooo!" -- Ric Flair

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by: Black Earl @ Fri Dec 07, 2007 at 02:08:04 AM UTC

You should start all of your posts (2.00 / 2)

with sorry.

As for your observation of the debate, there are plenty who disagree.  

But, you have your opinions.  Fortunately, most of them end up as hidden comments.

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by: greee @ Fri Dec 07, 2007 at 02:15:31 AM UTC

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Is this the same John Edwards who refused to condem South Carolina's right to work law? (4.00 / 1)

So much for being a labor man.

"Win if you can, lose is you must, but ALWAYS cheat!" -- Jesse Ventura

"Whether you like it or not, learn to love it, because its the best thing going. Wooooo!" -- Ric Flair

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by: Black Earl @ Fri Dec 07, 2007 at 13:26:10 PM UTC

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Incorrect (4.00 / 1)

as usual.

West Michigan Rising: The Progressive Blog for Our (future) Left Coast

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by: philgoblue @ Fri Dec 07, 2007 at 21:45:17 PM UTC

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Not True? Take It Up With The Hill. (4.00 / 1)

"Win if you can, lose is you must, but ALWAYS cheat!" -- Jesse Ventura

"Whether you like it or not, learn to love it, because its the best thing going. Wooooo!" -- Ric Flair

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by: Black Earl @ Sat Dec 08, 2007 at 00:14:28 AM UTC

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Face It Your Boy Is A Fraud. (4.00 / 1)

 November 15, 2007

Former Sen. John Edwards (D-N.C.) has made support for and from organized labor one of the centerpieces of his 2008 presidential campaign, but some labor officials say Edwards is new to their cause and the former senator's rhetoric is at odds with his record.

With the Democratic candidates set to debate Thursday night in Nevada, a state where labor still carries considerable clout, Edwards's rivals and the unions backing them are criticizing the former senator's past support for issues that are anathema to the labor community.

Sen. Barack Obama (Ill.), in a speech to the United Auto Workers (UAW) in Iowa this week, aimed at both of his chief rivals. After hitting Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (N.Y.) for her past support of NAFTA, he took an indirect shot at Edwards, saying: "When a candidate says he opposes right-to-work laws or trade rules that hurt workers today, ask him where he's been before."

In 1998, while running for the Senate, Edwards did not come out in favor of repealing right-to-work laws in North Carolina, and he has only opposed a national right-to-work law. While North Carolina is hardly considered to be a labor stronghold, the former senator's record and his relationship with some unions in the state were used by some unions to judge him as unworthy of an endorsement.

The International Association of Fire Fighters (IAFF), which endorsed Sen. Chris Dodd (Conn.), said Edwards's unwillingness to advocate a repeal of the right-to-work measure was a sticking point for the membership when it was seriously considering supporting the former senator's bid.

"How do you walk picket lines and be for right-to-work?" Jeffrey Zack, an IAFF official, said. "It's surprising that it wasn't disconcerting to more people.

"Ultimately, at the end of the day, it's results. It's not what you say. It's results."

http://thehill.com/leading-the...

"Win if you can, lose is you must, but ALWAYS cheat!" -- Jesse Ventura

"Whether you like it or not, learn to love it, because its the best thing going. Wooooo!" -- Ric Flair

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by: Black Earl @ Sat Dec 08, 2007 at 00:16:47 AM UTC

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US Senators Don't Have Jurisdiction (0.00 / 0)

If you read the entire quote, in context, Edwards was saying that as a US Senator the best thing he could do to increase wages in NORTH Carolina was to increase the FEDERAL minimum wage.

West Michigan Rising: The Progressive Blog for Our (future) Left Coast

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by: philgoblue @ Sat Dec 08, 2007 at 18:37:55 PM UTC

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FRAUD (4.00 / 1)

I read it correctly.  He refused to condemn the redneck right to work law in his own state.

How can you refute the following sentence:

"In 1998, while running for the Senate, Edwards did not come out in favor of repealing right-to-work laws in North Carolina"

Face the facts that Edwards portray as a tribune of the working man is a fraud.  I like him but I wish he was a bit more honest.


"Win if you can, lose is you must, but ALWAYS cheat!" -- Jesse Ventura

"Whether you like it or not, learn to love it, because its the best thing going. Wooooo!" -- Ric Flair

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by: Black Earl @ Sat Dec 08, 2007 at 18:59:49 PM UTC

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Yea..he's incorrect (0.00 / 0)

it was North Carolina that he said he would not repeal ight to Work.

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by: LivinginMichigan @ Sun Dec 09, 2007 at 01:39:01 AM UTC

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Phil (4.00 / 2)

I went to your site in ActBlue today to donate money to Edwards.  It wouldn't take it.  It kept saying I had to enter my address, and it was already in there.  Eventually I gave up and went to his website and gave.  Sorry I couldn't do it through you.  Keep up the good fight.  

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by: dkmich @ Fri Dec 07, 2007 at 21:48:15 PM UTC