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AP: Saturday "could get raucus"

by: XavierLA

Wed Apr 16, 2008 at 19:05:09 PM EDT


I thought this was a pretty entertaining part of this afternoon's Associated Press story on this Saturday's congressional district meetings:

The 15 congressional district meetings could get raucous. Obama, former North Carolina Sen. John Edwards and two other candidates pulled their names from the ballot, forcing their supporters to vote for Uncommitted.

About 450 people have registered to run for the 36 delegate and 2 alternate spots set aside for those who backed Uncommitted. Brewer says the vast majority are Obama supporters, but he expects the competition to win a spot will be intense.

"People feel very passionately about their candidates, and I expect we're going to see a lot of passionate campaigns on Saturday," he said.

About 450 people also applied to run for 47 delegate and 13 alternate spots that will go to Clinton supporters, but the Clinton campaign has reduced the list to around 150 people, Brewer said.

About 21,000 party members are eligible to vote at Saturday's district conventions.

Its especially encouraging for me, a Hillary Clinton supporter, to see that, despite not having any formal organization in the state (like Michiganders for Obama), there was a fairly equal number of applicants for spots for "Uncommitted" and Hillary Clinton.

I can't help but to assume that the Obama campaign will benefit from its geographical closeness this Saturday.  From what I hear from my Obama-supporting friends in Grand Rapids, the competition could be described as "intense."

I know in California, the Obama campaign slashed over half of his delegates to the congressional district conventions, until public pressure (and a fierce reaction from the netroots) caused Axelrod & Plouffe to reverse their decision at the last minute.  There was a lot of speculation about whether the Obama campaign made a coordinated effort to eliminate anti-war activists and members of the netroots as a way of controlling the tone of the meetings.  But others have contended that it was less of an effort to cut bloggers and hardcore activists, and more of a way for the Obama campaign to ensure that its big donors were rewarded with a spot at the convention.

We'll see how this Saturday turns out, any predictions?

I know that I plan to be watching this all unfold at Creston High School in Grand Rapids. 

XavierLA :: AP: Saturday "could get raucus"
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Don't be too encouraged (0.00 / 0)
by the number of applicants to be Clinton delegates. Yes, they are pledged to vote for Clinton (unlike the Uncommitteds), but I personally know a number of folks running for Clinton delegate who don't actually support her - they just want to go to the convention, and knew that the degree of scrutiny on the Uncommitted side would be intense.

How many of those were cut from the final list? (4.00 / 1)
I kind of hope that I get to watch the Obama supporters choose their delegates, because it will be interesting.  The emails I've been reading from the various delegates all seem to be following this sort of one-upmanship.. "I've supported Sen. Obama from the beginning," which is something I read on a lot of California blogs about the delegate selection process there.

Hillary speaks for me.

[ Parent ]
That is the way of it. (3.00 / 4)
It is actually common practice for some of the most zealous supporters (of any candidate) to be elected to delegate slots.

Those who have worked the primary hard on behalf of any candidate usually have something to show for it, namely they are known to the people of the district they've been working so hard in.

They get out there and tout their credentials as serious supporters in order to win those delegate slots.  We call it "campaigning".

Julie

To prepare for when your life flashes before your eyes, make sure it's fun to watch.


[ Parent ]
Not to mention (0.00 / 1)
There were some big name Dems in MI who had to get on the horn and recruit Clinton delegate candidates.  I know of a few who were recruited but have now dropped out here in the 4th Dist.

Additionally, the fact that there has been more of an effort to organize for the Obama campaign tells me there is more passion from Obama supporters than Clinton supporters, at least in the real world.

I wouldn't be too encouraged by any of that if I were a Clinton supporter.

Julie

To prepare for when your life flashes before your eyes, make sure it's fun to watch.


[ Parent ]
In the middle of nowhere (0.00 / 0)
Maybe there were some patches way out in the middle of nowhere who had problems recruiting die-hard Hillary candidates, but that certainly was not the case in the more heavily populated areas.

(Sorry Julie. I don't know where you live so "the middle of nowhere" was written firmly tongue-in-cheek.)

Nothing is easier than solving a problem on the back of the poor. People who don't have lobbyists or clout.


[ Parent ]
I was gonna say (4.00 / 1)
it's pretty populated where she is. :O)

"Kill the headlights and put it in neutral..."

[ Parent ]
Not to mention (3.00 / 3)
the fact that Obama supporters trend more affluent, so I'd imagine that the elite affluent liberals could fund initiatives (certainly that was the case here in Grand Rapids).

Since HRC tends to win the under 75,000+ crowd, I wouldn't doubt that some of her most ardent supporters (those who know that the experience and ability to bring about change is going to be important for our next president given the challenges we face--that they are facing every day) are unable to go to meetings or run for delegate.

If someone would forward me a more easily discernible set of th elists I'd appreciate it.

Hillary speaks for me.


[ Parent ]
Nice meme planting (2.67 / 3)
"....elite affluent liberals"  Gosh that's right outta the Faux "News" script.

How very sad.

Julie

To prepare for when your life flashes before your eyes, make sure it's fun to watch.


[ Parent ]
I haven't made $75/year, ever. (4.00 / 1)
Nor do the people I know, hang out with or am related to (other than the California kin on my mother's side).

Collectively, this group (a miniscule sample, and admittedly anecdotal) are 100% for Obama.

BTW, the California relatives are also for Obama -- but since they include a dot-com pioneer, a semi-retired telecom executive, an architect and a doctor, they don't count in your worldview.


[ Parent ]
Prediction: (4.00 / 3)
Of the 36 district-level uncommitted slots, 30 or more will be filled by Obama supporters (not moles).


All the uncommitted = Obama and everyone at the caucuses should stand up and say it. (0.00 / 0)


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I think it's "raucous", not "raucus" (4.00 / 3)
Unless, of course, you're attending a "caucous" on Saturday.

A government that robs Peter to pay Paul can always count on the support of Paul.


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