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Why Is Joel Ferguson Calling for a 73-0 Split Again?

by: emptywheel

Thu May 29, 2008 at 16:21:18 PM EDT


And does Mark Brewer still plan on having Ferguson represent us on Saturday?

Update: No. Via Liz Kerr, Brewer will present the challenge and Senator Levin will speak as well. 

According to the AP, Ferguson sent a letter out to the RBC members, stating that he thinks the MDP's proposal (which Ferguson himself signed) is fatally flawed.

A top Clinton supporter in Michigan said Thursday the state Democratic Party's plan to split the convention delegates between Hillary Rodham Clinton and Barack Obama is "fatally flawed."

Democratic National Committee member Joel Ferguson sent a letter Thursday to the co-chairs of the DNC's Rules and Bylaws Committee seeking to seat all of Michigan's delegates based on the results of the disputed Jan. 15 election.

[snip]

His letter puts him at odds with the Michigan Democratic Party's chairman and executive committee, which support a proposed 69-59 split.

Now to be fair to Ferguson, his argument seems to parrot what the RBC meeting materials say--that the RBC (unlike the Credentials Committee) doesn't have the authority to arbitrarily assign votes.

"I am convinced that neither the RBC nor the DNC have the authority to take pledged delegates allocated to Hillary Clinton by virtue of the popular vote and assign them to either Uncommitted or to Barack Obama as the challenge seeks," Ferguson wrote in his letter.

But Ferguson appears to be ignoring the DNC's evident inclination to give the uncommitted delegates to the four candidates who weren't on the ballot (Obama and three of his now-supporters) to divvy up accordingly. From Mark Ambinder:

emptywheel :: Why Is Joel Ferguson Calling for a 73-0 Split Again?

Joel Ferguson, a DNC member who will argue the case on behalf of Michigan, wants to award Clinton her entiire delegate slate (73); award Obama zero delegates because he chose not to be on the ballot (0), and, failing that, give all the superdelegates like himself a full vote and the pledged delegates a half of a vote. [my emphasis]

(Sadly, the RBC materials also seem to lend support Ferguson's outrageous plan of halving elected delegates' vote while keeping his at full stregnth--though that requirement extends only to DNC members, not to elected official super-delegates.) 

What appears to be going on is the MDP and Ferguson are sending dueling letters to RBC members. From Ambinder again:

The Michigan Democratic Party's leading lights, in a letter to members of the rules and bylaws comission today, reiterate their position: the Clinton campaign wanted 73 delegates to Obama's 55; the Obama campaign wanted them split equally; the party split the difference, proposing a 69 to 59 split.

Uh, guys? Is anyone planning on representing the actual voters of Michigan on Saturday? Ferguson, certainly, doesn't seem to have his heart on defending the plan approved by the Executive Committee.

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Ferguson (4.00 / 3)
Joel Ferguson only cares about what's good for Joel Ferguson. His horse in this race is Hillary Clinton. What's good for his horse is good for him. He doesn't care one bit about the voters.

The MDP leadership can say what they want, but if they're sending him to speak on their behalf...well, that tells you everything you need to know about what the MDP leaders want to happen, the same ding-dongs who create this clusterfuck.

The man fleecing Michigan taxpayers (with the help of Granholm) through the State Police Headquarters boondoggle is the last person who should be arguing anything on behalf of Democratic Party voters.


73 - 0 ??? The article says 73 Clinton and 55 uncommitted. (0.00 / 0)


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From the AP Article (4.00 / 1)
Under Ferguson's plan, Clinton would get 73 pledged delegates for winning the Michigan presidential primary, while "uncommitted" would get 55. The Clinton campaign has maintained that Obama should not get any Michigan delegates even though many of his supporters voted for "uncommitted."


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Uncommitted is Obama as far as the MDP is concerned. What difference does it make what Clinton thinks? (0.00 / 0)
Is someone other than Brewer speaking on Michigan's behalf?  He'll have people at the table with him, but is it allowed to have another speaker?

[ Parent ]
Please Do Not Vote For Joel Ferguson for MSU Trustee (or any office) (3.25 / 4)
Ferguson is a disgrace as an MSU Trustee. While last year tuition shot up almost 10% (fought down from the threat of 17%), Ferguson was busy lining his pockets with a $45 million dollar no bid contract to move the State Police Headquarters to a bad location that will not serve to consolidate the department, nor can it handle their motor and helicopter fleet.

I don't trust Ferguson, and I wonder what he might have vested in a Clinton win. It will not be in the interest of the Michigan voters and taxpayers.


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About the Rulz (4.00 / 1)
On August 19, 2006, the Democratic National Committee (DNC)
set the dates for the selection of delegates to the 2008 Democratic
nominating convention as follows:
• at Iowa caucuses held no earlier than January 14, 2008;
• at Nevada caucuses held no earlier than January 19;
• at a New Hampshire primary held no earlier than January 22; and
• at a South Carolina primary held no earlier than January 29.
The rest of the states could then hold their caucuses or primaries to
select their delegates after the opening of the "window" on February 5,
2008.
Michigan Democrats, while disappointed our state was not selected
as one of the four "pre-window" states, announced we would abide by the
DNC calendar, unless New Hampshire or another state decided to ignore
the rule establishing that sequence and that calendar.

READ what attorneys think of the DNC's actions at http://www.talkleft.com/story/...

Talkleft.com has been using clearpolitics.com and the states numbers for a fair picture of what's really happening.

After watching the dog and pony show on TV and seeing the flip side with the real numbers, this entire process is a sham. Most of the people in the country don't know what's going on because of the media hype.

There are drastic differences between the caucuses and primaries like Idaho's primary last night. And drastic difference as to what the delegate count should be.
http://www.talkleft.com/story/...

Joel Ferguson is on top of things, as should everyone else that is really interested in fair politics.  


Moron (0.00 / 0)
The word moron does come to mind....  


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