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Michigan in Deep Trouble Without Mass Transit

by: dzhuang

Thu Aug 14, 2008 at 22:41:04 PM EDT


Michiganians are stuck on automobiles in more than one way. Not only is our economy dependent upon the Big 3 automakers, we rely solely on automobiles to get around our state–and now it is taking its toll.

A task force appointed by Governor Granholm recently released a report declaring that Michigan must double spending on roads and bridges otherwise “many will keep deteriorating and become unsafe.” The state spends about $3.2 billion a year on road and bridge maintenance, and now the task force recommends it to spend $6.1 billion a year for “good” conditions or $12.6 billion a year for “better” conditions. It is ridiculous how much taxpayer money goes towards fixing roads. The main propagator for this crisis? The lack of an adequate mass transit system anywhere in the state.

dzhuang :: Michigan in Deep Trouble Without Mass Transit

It might just be that the idea of single commuter transit is become embedded in every Michiganian’s mindset. It was once a sign of wealth and power as well as a tribute to the technology that gave them jobs and drove the state’s economy; however, now it is just an outdated method of travel that is more painful nostalgia than anything else. Now is a good time–no, needed time–to let go and say goodbye to the back and forth drive between your home and work, school or friends and say goodbye to the killer gas prices that average about $3.88 a gallon (lower than before but still a burden).

Michiganians have just started smartening up, starting with our governor. Governor Granholm recently decided to take the bus to work instead of drive, shifting the spotlight onto mass transit and its economical benefits. It’s simple really–you ride the bus, you save quite a bit of money from decreased fuel consumption and decreased spending on fuel. Transit ridership out on the West side of the state has risen, demonstrating the growing demand for public transit–and in effect, the need for increased public transit funding to improve Michigan’s public transit systems.

So far, Michigan has barely anything to offer. The only rail system we have is in Detroit, the People Mover, a troublesome and miniature 2.9 mile-long transit system with a pathetic 13 stops. Metro-Detroit has a poor and inefficient bus system and no rail system. Western Michigan has a bus system (though I have no idea about the quality). Ann Arbor and Lansing do as well. I am less clear on other parts of the state.

To read more, visit: http://michypa.com/2008/08/04/michigan-in-trouble-without-mass-transit/

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Not now, but maybe in the future
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Skepticism runs deep (4.00 / 2)
Here in Livingston County, the WALLY proposal is facing an uphill battle.  WALLY is a light rail project that would run from Howell to Ann Arbor along an existing track -- getting ~2600 drivers off heavily congested Route 23 each day.

Estimated cost of upgrading and widening Route 23:
$500 million

Estimated cost of the WALLY project:
$32 million... and there would be federal funds available to offfset some of the cost.

So why is our local paper running snarky headlines like, "Rail line 'feasible,' but obstacles remain"?
http://www.livingstondaily.com...


Mass Transit (4.00 / 3)
That's the funny thing about mass transit. They claim it's not profitable, feasible, etc. But no one talks about how heavily subsidized the automobile is with every side street, road, highway, and bridge built to accommodate them. Trucks, too, of course. But the vast majority of the traffic is due to cars.

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Cost of Transit (0.00 / 0)
I would love to see buses running along our highways between cities in the state.  I drive from Marshall to Lansing and back 5 days a week.  That's 95 miles round trip.  If there was a bus running along I-69 every half hour stop briefly at each MDOT highway carpark, I would happily pay a fare equal to $.10/mile.  With 30 average people per 60 person capacity bus, that would work out to $3.00/mile.  For a bio-diesel bus operating at 6 mpg (almost all highway) and bio-diesel at $5/gallon, this works out to $.83/mile.  Calculating a $20/hr wage for the driver and union benefits equal to those for a full time state employee comes out to a cost of $.50 for the driver.  That leaves and extra $1.67/mile for the cost of the bus and maintenence for a bus operating at half capacity.  The Republic of Ireland, which is about the size of the Lower Peninsula but with only half our population successfully operates an inter-city bus system just like this.

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The cost is marginal (0.00 / 0)
Road and bridge maintenance is just way too expensive, partially due to the material they use. I know someone at MDOT that says they purposely use material that weakens relatively quickly. Unfortunately, there is quite a bit of bureaucracy that prevents the right actions from taking place.

Editor-in-Chief, Michigan Youth Political Alliance

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In GR (0.00 / 0)
Bus ridership is up significantly, a new Central Bus Station was built, a millage increase passed easily, and we're considering a Rapid Bus system of South Division, a downtown trolley, and in the future, some lightrail to connect it all.

If we could just get an effective and dynamic mayor and elect 2-4 more Democrats on the County Commission who would ally with pro-transit Republicans, we could be a model city.

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