Liveblogging the Roll Call Vote for the Nominees

General Holiefield (4.00 / 5)

Hey over there in Michigan!

Aaron Silverstein here from SquareState.net in Colorado.

I am sitting one row in front of your delegation and wanted to send you this pic of Michigan Delegate, UAW VP General Holiefield cheering on your calling of the roll...

Click for Bigness, and maybe you can spot others from home.

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by: TakeBackTheHouse @ Wed Aug 27, 2008 at 22:32:22 PM UTC

Thanks Aaron! n/t (0.00 / 0)

"Kill the headlights and put it in neutral..."

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by: AikoAdam @ Wed Aug 27, 2008 at 22:58:59 PM UTC

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Unity (4.00 / 5)

Now that's unity. Very slick and gracious of Sen. Clinton to do that.

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by: rich @ Wed Aug 27, 2008 at 22:52:46 PM UTC

Agreed! (4.00 / 3)

What a historic moment!  My God!  Senator Barack Obama is now the official Democratic Party Presidential Nominee!  Hot Damn!!!  Woo-hoo!  God Bless America!!

"In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

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by: CFCLFM @ Wed Aug 27, 2008 at 23:08:58 PM UTC

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Classy (4.00 / 2)

It was very classy, but it was also very good theater. ;)

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by: rich @ Wed Aug 27, 2008 at 23:39:09 PM UTC

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Hey RIch and LL-- (4.00 / 3)

What exactly the heck happened with the Michigan delegation? What happened to 73-55? Where did the 129-27 come from? Got any inside scoop from the people who actually voted?

And when the motion for acclamation came up, did anyone else have visions of Hans Moleman? Ten thousand people say "Aye" and one small voice in the back says "Nay"??

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by: PerfectStormer @ Thu Aug 28, 2008 at 01:04:00 AM UTC

Not Sure (4.00 / 3)

I'm not sure what happened, but I can tell you that during the roll call the delegate votes in states like Missouri, which were close in the primary, were landslide tallies in favor of Obama. And states like Delaware and New Jersey their votes were unanimous in favor of Obama.  

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by: rich @ Thu Aug 28, 2008 at 01:13:21 AM UTC

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she released her delegates (4.00 / 3)

to vote however they wished.

The end of the human race will be that it will eventually die of civilization.

 - Ralph Waldo Emerson

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by: michmark @ Thu Aug 28, 2008 at 02:14:07 AM UTC

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Here's what happened - (4.00 / 2)

At breakfast this morning (well, yesterday morning when you read this), Mark Brewer announced that when we signed in after breakfast to receive our daily credential, that we would also vote. Voting on a list is a whole lot easier than trying to get everyone together in a huddle on the convenition floor. In fact, that would be practically impossible - there is not enough room on the floor to scratch your elbows.

So, Hillary having previously 'released' her delegates (which has no 'legal' standing, but has moral force), that was the number of folks who switched.

I've forgotten now what our actual number of delegates, with supers, is. However, I would not be surprised if our number of votes was at least a little short. If you did not come down for breakfast, you might have missed out on voting.

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by: memiller @ Thu Aug 28, 2008 at 07:26:06 AM UTC

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Here's what happened - (4.00 / 4)

At breakfast this morning (well, yesterday morning when you read this), Mark Brewer announced that when we signed in after breakfast to receive our daily credential, that we would also vote. Voting on a list is a whole lot easier than trying to get everyone together in a huddle on the convenition floor. In fact, that would be practically impossible - there is not enough room on the floor to scratch your elbows.

So, Hillary having previously 'released' her delegates (which has no 'legal' standing, but has moral force), that was the number of folks who switched.

I've forgotten now what our actual number of delegates, with supers, is. However, I would not be surprised if our number of votes was at least a little short. If you did not come down for breakfast, you might have missed out on voting.

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by: memiller @ Thu Aug 28, 2008 at 07:26:07 AM UTC

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Thanks for the breakfast updates (4.00 / 3)

It's great to know what has been happening at the MI breakfast meetings since Rich can't get there, as well as other things from the delegate POV. I check WMR regularly for updates!

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by: liberalmomma @ Thu Aug 28, 2008 at 10:57:56 AM UTC

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Also... (4.00 / 5)

MAD PROPS to whoever the awesome lady was that gave the little spiel before the Michigan vote was announced. A. I was glad it wasn't Brewer, and B. that was definitely the best spiel from any of the states. Michigan *has* been the hardest hit by Hurricane George, and I'm glad she pointed it out.

Speaking of hurricanes, I hope someone makes a reference to Katrina either tonight or tomorrow. Jimmy Carter was on CNN with Keith and Tweety, and he got to talk about how his administration formed FEMA with the idea that it would be run by someone with experience in emergency management (shocker!) and how Bush installed Brownie (President Carter actually referred to Brown as "Brownie." I LOLed.).

I wish the networks would show more of what's actually going on on the floor. I can get it online and via the blogs and Twitter, but the average American has to rely on the networks, who would rather listen to their talking heads talk than actually show the convention. They want to talk about PUMA and the nomination fight while the party is actually talking about alternative energy, ending the war, national security, etc.  

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by: PerfectStormer @ Thu Aug 28, 2008 at 01:10:37 AM UTC

And of course by CNN I mean MSNBC. Oy. (4.00 / 3)

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by: PerfectStormer @ Thu Aug 28, 2008 at 01:17:06 AM UTC

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Tina Abbott (4.00 / 7)

Her statement:

From the state most devastated by the unfair, failed trade and economic policies of George W. Bush and John McCain that have shipped our jobs overseas, pushed gas to $4 a gallon, and left our children with the burden of their irresponsible choices on everything from health care to Iraq, from the state with the most to gain from Barack Obama's plan to create jobs by investing in renewable fuels and retooling our manufacturing sector, Michigan proudly casts 27 votes for Hillary Clinton and 125 votes for the next President of the United States, Barack Obama.

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by: rich @ Thu Aug 28, 2008 at 01:41:51 AM UTC

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Bobble Obama... (4.00 / 4)

is very happy at Barack Obama being the party's nominee.

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by: rich @ Thu Aug 28, 2008 at 01:10:39 AM UTC

Barack Obobble. (4.00 / 4)

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by: PerfectStormer @ Thu Aug 28, 2008 at 01:14:13 AM UTC

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One final thought before I shut up. (4.00 / 5)

For personal reasons my ears perk up when New Hampshire is mentioned (don't ask...long story), and I was intrigued by the unanimous Obama vote from the NH delegates. Hillary won New Hampshire, and for all the NH delegates to switch and vote for Obama shows A) New Hampshireites are awesome people who believe in unity and doing what's right to take back our country, and B) what a slap in the face to the PUMAs.  

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by: PerfectStormer @ Thu Aug 28, 2008 at 01:13:49 AM UTC

PUMAs (4.00 / 4)

I think the unanimous votes are telling in how very tiny in number (and ineffective) the PUMAs are, and how the MSM feed them.

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by: rich @ Thu Aug 28, 2008 at 01:15:28 AM UTC

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What does "PUMAs" mean, please? n/t (4.00 / 3)

"In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

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by: CFCLFM @ Thu Aug 28, 2008 at 02:33:27 AM UTC

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PUMA means... (4.00 / 8)

Party Unity My Ass.

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by: rich @ Thu Aug 28, 2008 at 02:36:14 AM UTC

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You guys are nuts! n/t (4.00 / 4)

Nothing is easier than solving a problem on the back of the poor. People who don't have lobbyists or clout.

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by: yvette248 @ Thu Aug 28, 2008 at 02:43:48 AM UTC

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I carry around... (4.00 / 6)

a Bobblehead version of Barack Obama. That should have been a clue. :)

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by: rich @ Thu Aug 28, 2008 at 02:45:23 AM UTC

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Very Good, Thanks! n/t (4.00 / 2)

"In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

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by: CFCLFM @ Thu Aug 28, 2008 at 02:52:58 AM UTC

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I talked with a bunch of Hillary delegates (4.00 / 5)

and have not met a single PUMA. There may be 1% or 2% of the delegation, but the MSM sure does love them. They keep the 'fight' narrative going.

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by: memiller @ Thu Aug 28, 2008 at 07:29:40 AM UTC

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Mark (4.00 / 2)

Could you describe the reasoning behind why some in the Michigan delegation stuck with Hillary and voted for her at the breakfast?

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by: philgoblue @ Thu Aug 28, 2008 at 11:18:59 AM UTC

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PUMAs (0.00 / 0)

I don't think the PUMAs are the group of Hillary supporters that Obama needs to be concerned about.  They are a very small percentage of Democrats (1% to 2% sounds right) and will never be convinced otherwise.  They're more than evened out by hard core conservatives who won't support McCain.

What Obama does need to be worried about are the middle group of Hillary supporters described very well by Geraldine Ferraro in this article:  http://www.nydailynews.com/opi...  These people are the reason that Obama and McCain remain neck and neck in the polls.

No one can force these people to vote for Obama.  Most aren't simply going to vote for Obama because McCain is a worse alternative.  Obama has yet to win this group over and they are the group most likely to cost him the election.

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by: Brady @ Thu Aug 28, 2008 at 15:53:05 PM UTC

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Geraldine Ferraro (0.00 / 0)

Please, Brady, I wouldn't take what Ferraro says too seriously. She went off the deep end months ago.

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by: rich @ Sun Aug 31, 2008 at 01:37:23 AM UTC

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Release (4.00 / 3)

Hillary did release her delegates to vote for whomever they wanted.

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by: rich @ Thu Aug 28, 2008 at 01:20:13 AM UTC

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