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The point of due process

by: Eric B.

Sun Aug 19, 2012 at 14:11:41 PM EDT


We note, for posterity, the final flameout that is the career of Andrew Shirvell.

(CNN) -- A federal court jury in Detroit has awarded a $4.5 million judgment to the University of Michigan's first openly gay student body president in his suit against a former Michigan assistant attorney general who had written disparagingly about him on the Internet, the student's lawyer said.

When this broke, there was a general hue and a cry from some of our fellow progressives that he be fired immediately and without even so much as an investigation into whether his conduct was actually illegal. The fact that it was offensive was of primary importance. The investigation turned up evidence of genuine misconduct and he was fired; now, he's lost a defamation lawsuit. All that happened without establishing a precedence for firing a public employee for political activism on their own time, which might have been turned around and used against union organizers or scientists who belong to science-based policy groups like the Union of Concerned Scientists.

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That trial was career suicide for Shrivell
He committed the cardinal sin of lawyering--namely, representing himself in court. He also turned down the plaintiff's offer to voluntarily dismiss the case if he apologized.

That kind of judgment might affect his future employability.

A government that robs Peter to pay Paul can always count on the support of Paul.


Two Words: Mackinac. Center.
You can be sure The Mackinac Center would welcome Mr. Shirvell -- maybe not with a high-profile pronouncement, but I'm sure he'd find a spot where he could foment his brand of far-right craziness.

Another prime candidate for the Center -- Thaddeus McCotter. Probably early next year. He likes writing long-winded diatribes, and the Mackinac Center (or its propaganda arm, MichCapCon) loves publishing them. They're a natural fit.

"The two most common elements in the universe are hydrogen and stupidity." ~ Harlan Ellison


[ Parent ]
He's more The Michigan View quality
Remember, that's where Matt Davis' seditionist tirade was first published and where they let Ted Nugent go off about how the South should have won the Civil War.

The Mackinac Center doesn't usually go in for social issues.

Among the Trees


[ Parent ]
Wait a minute...
You mean - the whole thing could have just gone away if he had apologized - but he didn't and therefor lost everything?  

He's got a great future in the Tea Party.  


[ Parent ]
The reason he should have been fired from the AG's office
... wasn't that he misused public property, or his position, or that he defamed somebody.  It was that he was to crazy to hold a position where discretion and judgment were qualifications.  He should never have been hired, but since he was, it was a good idea to fire him as soon as an excuse arose.

One should consider for a moment what hiring somebody like Shirvell to represent the public in court tells us about Mike Cox and his administrative competence.  Also, the power of the nutty right within the Republican Establishment these days.

I don't think the crazy leftists who got jobs during the Granholm administrations (either as AG or Governor) were a tenth as crazy as Shirvell.


Of course they weren't as crazy
The problem is that no one cares about proportionality. No one in the future is going to care what Andrew Shirvell did or how much batshit crazier it was than anything any liberal/leftist/Democrat did, or how badly it makes a state government agency look.  All they're going to remember, were Shirvell fired without an investigation, was that he was fired for political speech and that if it's good enough for Republicans it's good enough for Democrats.

Put another way, as soon as the Bolger-Schmidt fiasco broke, the media accepted it as a story line that "both parties were guilty of it," even though in one case it was a couple of employees of the Oakland County Democratic Party and in the other it was a sitting House Speaker.

Among the Trees


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More on that proportionality
The scheme by Messrs. McGuinness and Bauer broke down before any of their "Tea Party" candidates appeared on a ballot. No one ever had a chance to vote for these potential candidates, so no true "voter fraud" was committed. They were nailed on the fraudulent petitions and notarized candidate filings.

So if you wanted to make a direct comparison, it would be former U.S. Rep. Thaddeus McCotter -- who we KNOW submitted fraudulent petitions for 2012 and STRONGLY SUSPECT was reelected in 2010, 2008, even possibly 2006 after submitting falsified petitions.

"The two most common elements in the universe are hydrogen and stupidity." ~ Harlan Ellison


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I wasn't speaking specifically about the Oakland Dems
I was thinking of various other appointees.  Some were slightly off-center, but I can't think of any who were batshit crazy.

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Well, you know, that doesn't make any difference to a lot of people to whom it should
I'm talking about people in the media, who should know better than to say that what Jase Bolger did was nothing that Democrats haven't previously done, because he's the House Speaker and the Democrats they're comparing him to are the Oakland Dems.  In this case, Andrew Shirvell is totally batshit crazy. He's an embarrassment to the legacy of Mike Cox's hiring practices.  But, the next time around, when conservatives decide they've had enough of some DNR fisheries biologist whose crime is to report a decline of some important fisheries species connected to some industrial activity or climate change, they wouldn't have cared just how batshit crazy Andrew Shirvell was. All they're going to know is that they want someone's scalp and don't care how badly they have to contort the truth to get it.  And, since the media had so much difficulty telling the difference between a couple of county party apparatchiks playing a game of fraud and a sitting House Speaker, we can't have any faith that they'd be able to tell the difference between a batshit crazy assistant AG going off his nut and a DNR fisheries biologist engaging in appropriate free speech.

Among the Trees

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I used to give out an award called the Bobo Award
Here is its description.
The ultimate achievement in the Kook Arts. Given in recognition of the lifetime work of those who rise above and beyond the call of net.looniness, the Bobo is reserved for those whose sheer quest at whatever it is they're pursuing knows Absolutely No Bounds, whether they be global humiliation, jail time, even death. Several Bobo honorees are, in fact, in jail or deceased. Think of it as the Internet's version of the Darwin Award.
I think Shirvell qualifies.

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