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BORM*: I didn't hit her. Bitch put her face in front of my moving fist

by: Eric B.

Tue Dec 11, 2012 at 14:55:29 PM EST


Oh. Good. Lord.

Michigan Gov. Rick Snyder has a message for the thousands of union members protesting on Tuesday outside the state Capitol: You started it.

Appearing on MSNBC’s “Andrea Mitchell Reports,” the GOP governor said Michigan’s unions started the fight that ended with the legislature passing a right-to-work bill by trying to enshrine collective bargaining rights in the state’s constitution.

Says the man who for two years refused to say that he'd veto Right to Work if it got to his desk, and who has signed every anti-union bill that has.

This isn't just a case of blaming the victim; it's now also benevolent overlord Rick Michigan failing to be a leader worth respecting.

*--Benevolent overlord Rick Michigan

Eric B. :: BORM*: I didn't hit her. Bitch put her face in front of my moving fist
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On our end (0.00 / 0)
On our end of things, shouldn't there have been a unified announcement immediately after the vote that we were going to pursue and intiative?  Seems like knowing we'd lose the vote, the least we could have done was staged a media coup where we attracted the media to the Lansing Center for an announcement, or something.  The time to start organizing for this is immediately.  

It sucks that this has happened during the holidays and during such a cold time of the year, but plans have to be announced right away.

As for Rick, you thought your first two years were hard, just you wait and see what's on the back end, now.  Your pettiness will be answered in kind, One Term Nerd.


New law repeal old laws? (0.00 / 0)
I've just read the law doesn't take effect for 90 days from the end of the session, and cannot apply to existing contracts (many of which have years left to run). So, there's some time to figure out a legal strategy.

But existing law apparently also requires unions to pay for legal representation, etc. for non-union members. That was some reasoning for an agency/representation fee.

Does the new law repeal those requirements?

Can the new law be ruled unconstitutional because it "takes" money from the unions to pay for non-union members? Equal protection issue?

OTOH, can the union say to non-members, "Sorry, you aren't covered by our contract. Please feel free to re-apply for your old job, and negotiate your own contract at entry level wages? Seniority only applies to existing paid-up union members. Pensions only apply to existing paid-up union members. Overtime only applies to existing paid-up union members."


My understanding (4.00 / 1)
My understanding (and I could be wrong about this - is there an actual labor lawyer here who can opine on this?) is that the federal Taft-Hartley Act, that allows states to enact RTW laws in the first place, makes it illegal for unions not to represent workers who don't pay dues in RTW states, and makes it illegal for employers to discriminate for or against non-payers. That's why RTW is called right-to-freeload, because a worker can get all of the benefits of union representation without paying any of the costs.

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That's how I've heard it.  Taft-Hartley set this up, a timebomb of sorts.  They knew they could do a national RTW, so you just set the timer ticking tolet the states do it.  Unions have to cover all employees in a shop, members or not.  Taft-Hartley incentivizes RTW.

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New Title (0.00 / 0)
In light of this, I propose that Rick Michigan's title be changed from Benevolent Overlord to Malevolent Dictator.


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