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Mike Rogers tops GOP Senate poll; seat labelled safe in Roll Call

by: Eric B.

Tue Mar 12, 2013 at 17:04:30 PM EDT


Angela Wittrock at MLive reports Mike Rogers tops potential GOP challengers for Carl Levin's Senate seat in an automated poll.

The poll, released by Okemos-based Murray Communications, Combat Data and Portable Insights, found that 31.1 percent of the 1,170 likely Republican primary voters polled preferred Rogers to six other candidates who’ve expressed interest in the seat.

Scott Romney, brother of Republican Presidential nominee Mitt Romney, garnered 29.7 percent of the vote.

“The poll is good news for U.S. Rep. Mike Rogers,” Christopher Mark of Portable Insights said in a statement. “His support among likely Republican primary voters extends beyond his congressional district and puts him at a solid starting point in this race.”

The bad news for Mike Rogers is that Stuart Rothenberg this morning rated the seat as safe for Democrats, citing past performance for Republicans in statewide federal elections (that would be president and U.S. Senate to you and me, sunshines), and the fact that Michigan in reality is a Democratic state with Republican state government only because of the 2010 wave election (and gerrymandered legislative districts). He also said that it's probable that prominent Republicans would get into the race only to raise their profiles before not actually running. Under that scenario, Mike Rogers, who has quite a lot of clout and exposure as a member of the Republican House majority, may just float his name out there for a few months before opting to return to the House and maybe even win the chairmanship of the Homeland Security Committee.

If the political gods still worked according to Eric B. Strategy, that's what would happen, and the GOP would nominate Lil' Fella and clear him out of the House (which basically everyone else in both parties wants, anyway) for a Senate race he has no chance in winning. But, he'd raise Ron Paul money and force Democrats to spend a lot of money defending the seat, before Lil' Fella's aspirations are finally crushed under the reality that a figure as peculiar and extremist as him has exactly zero statewide appeal.

Update! ... The list of mostly irrelevant characters considering a Senate run grows. Now, our old, grammar-challenged friend Saul Anuzis is thinking of running. The man couldn't win an internal race against Goat Killer, but apparently thinks he can win a Senate seat in a blue state. From the comments:

Amash is someone with young ideas and fresh thoughts. He is understanding of the rights and privacy of the individual, he appeals to a wide spectrum of voters across party lines. Justin, who I have spoken with personally, is true to his word, he post each of his votes with explanation on FB for all to see and he responds to your thoughts as well. Most importantly...he adheres to his oath to the people he serves and is devoid of the corruptions that seem to plague politicians these days from both sides of the isle.

This is one of those things these people keep saying as if repeating it over and over will make it true. During the campaign, Lil' Fella kept telling everyone that he worked well with Democrats, despite the fact that his "work with Democrats" consisted entirely of co-sponsoring legislation with Dennis Kucinich. Aside from a few foreign policy issues related to foreign wars, Lil' Fella has exactly zero cross-party appeal, zero appeal to moderates and independents, and zero appeal to Establishment Republicans. If he gets in, he's done in Congress even if he loses the Senate primary because the GOP will just run someone in his Congressional District primary who will just turn around and use Steve Pestka's playbook from last year and win the district (and who'd probably beat him in a straight-up fight). Then, guys like this would have a three-month sad.

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I will be surprised if Rogers gives up his House seat
God knows, there would be plenty of Republicans who'd jump at the unexpected opening, but I don't think it will happen.  Rogers' hold on the current seat, combined with his fairly weak shot at the US Senate, leave him better off staying where he is.

The Republican big-shots will probably try to talk Rogers into running, figuring he raises the chance they'll take the Senate seat by a few percentage points, but they can't change the fundamentals he faces, and he'll do what's best for himself, not his party.

The fear of the Republican establishment is that they'll get stuck with somebody like Amash: undisciplined, rash, and easy to dislike.  Amash would probably reduce the chance of a Republican capture by five or ten percentage points.

Let's put aside the extremely one-sided results of the past ten or twenty US Senate elections in Michigan - they don't give us an accurate prediction, precisely because they have been a statistical freak.

Judging 18 months before the 2014 general election, with an open seat in a gubernatorial year, the Republicans have maybe a 35% or 40% chance of picking up the seat.  For Rothenberg to rate it "Safe Dem" is simply foolish.


Question
Is Rothenberg basing his "safe Dem" prediction solely on past elections, or is he considering the potential crop of candidates on the R and D side?

If it's based solely on history, I agree with Grebner. If it takes into account the candidates, I can't help but think Michigan at least "leans Dem" if it is not "safe Dem."

I think we have somewhat of a ringer with Gary Peters and I think the only person mentioned on the GOP side that could really make it a horse race is Rogers who, as Grebner points out, seems unlikely to run.


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I agree that the seat isn't "Safe Dem"
The next election is not just a midterm, but a midterm in the 6th year of a presidency. With the exception of 1998, when the Republicans behaved like the characters in "Lord of the Flies," the party in the White House has done poorly in 6th-year midterms.

The 2014 elections could be a complete debacle if Obama gets his Grand Bargain with cuts to Social Security and Medicare and other austerity measures: that would guarantee low turnout by Democrats, which was the reason for the wipeout in the 2010 midterms.

A government that robs Peter to pay Paul can always count on the support of Paul.


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