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Today in "Stuff that is happening right this very second"

by: Eric B.

Tue Apr 01, 2014 at 13:29:57 PM EDT


I'll just say this, if state Sen. John Moolenaar wants to be a Congressman, the 4th District is probably his for the taking. It was drawn to have Midland as its anchor, and it's where the money is. MIRS called to ask him if he is going to run.

“I think Sen. Moolenaar has to be the favorite at this point of time. He has the Midland base and this seat's always been a Midland-based district,” said Tom SHIELDS of the Marketing Resource Group (MRG). 

Moolenaar did not return a call from MIRS, but issued a statement at 5:18 p.m. commemorating Camp's service.

Jim Stamas is not running, but might run for Moolenaar's Senate seat if Moolenaar runs for Congress. No word on what Tony Stamas, the first Stamas mentioned, might do. The other real credible candidate mentioned in the MIRS article is Darwin Booher, who is from Evart. They mention a few others, but they mostly live on the southern fringes of the district, and the next redistricting process could leave them vulnerable. They did mention Kevin Cotter, who would be a horrible Congressperson. Everyone keeps saying he wants to be Speaker of the House, although doing that would break the precedent of the last two Speakers, who were named to the post after their first terms. Cotter is looking to get elected to his final two-year term.

Meanwhile the first poll in the 8th is out, on the Republican side. Mike Bishop is ahead, but it's pretty meaningless.

Oh yeah, one other thing, Vincent Gregory is not running for the 14th Congressional District, according to Gongwer.

Update! ... Saul Anuzis just Tweeted that he's not running in the 8th. Also, there's an article floating around that state Sen. John Moolenaar is running in the 4th. All hail Congressman Moolenaar. Here it is.

Eric B. :: Today in "Stuff that is happening right this very second"
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If my understanding is correct, (0.00 / 0)
then Vincent Gregory will be seeking his State Senate seat against State Representatives Vicki Barnett and Ellen Cogen Lipton, who had been running already when it was an open seat as Gregory actively pursued Congress.

Great Lakes, Great Times.

Hansen Clarke (4.00 / 1)
I keep hearing Congressman Clarke is getting into that race? Idk anyone is better than Brenda Lawrence.

[ Parent ]
Rudy Hobbs (0.00 / 0)
I'd rather see Rudy Hobbs win the seat. It won't be easy since his base (Southfield) is where Lawrence is mayor, but I think he will have the funds and determination to pull it off.

I feel like if Hansen Clark was getting in, we would have heard by now with only 3 weeks left.


[ Parent ]
We should find out more (4.00 / 1)
about financial support in two to four weeks, during the FEC reporting period for the most recent quarter that just ended on Monday.

Brenda Lawrence is the candidate with the lead, in my opinion.

Great Lakes, Great Times.


[ Parent ]
RUUUUUUUUDDDDDDYYYY (0.00 / 0)
I forgot about Rudy. Yeah he is the best choice in that race. I get about a email a week from his campaign in my spam box. He's racking up the money and the union support.

I dont think Brenda will get much traction with unions. I heard from Mike Stone UAW 1A she was at a pothole event in Southfield and left in a Honda.


[ Parent ]
Super odd (4.00 / 2)
Brenda Lawrence's husband is retired UAW Ford.  Her car is a Ford Mustang.  She has never owned a Honda.  Just adding a couple facts to the thread...    

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Hardly (0.00 / 0)
the best choice. Vince Gregory would've been a superior choice, and Bert Johnson is even better. Looking at primary election choices like this, I look for experience, leadership on the issues, and results. By those standards, the race breaks down to Johnson, Gregory, Hobbs, Lawrence (understanding Gregory is already out).

[ Parent ]
Darwin Booher. What a great baseball name that would be. (0.00 / 0)
I can see him coming on in relief for the Oakland A's. A Moneyball special.

A government that robs Peter to pay Paul can always count on the support of Paul.

You do love your sports. (0.00 / 0)
But what of that spry fellow rounding the bases, while the announcer bellows: "HERE COMES JOHNNY MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLENNNAAAAAAAARRRRRRRR!"

Great Lakes, Great Times.

[ Parent ]
Speaking of which... (4.00 / 1)
Rudy Hobbs would be a "natural" for MI-14.

Sports and trivia are two of my escapes from the ugliness of today's politics. That, and bourbon whiskey.

A government that robs Peter to pay Paul can always count on the support of Paul.


[ Parent ]
The Dutch (0.00 / 0)
The Dutch seem to be everywhere in this state.  All of those extra vowell with no place left to go, poor things. lol

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A primary challenger to Walberg filed this week. (0.00 / 0)

7TH DISTRICT REPRESENTATIVE IN CONGRESS 2 YEAR TERM (1) POSITION

REP

North, Douglas Radcliffe

3079 Hendee Rd
Jackson, MI 49201

03/31/2014

Petitions

1035

His candidacy may not last long, though, as he submitted virtually no cushion for signatures that may not be any good...

Also, Dan Kildee and Candice Miller have filed their 2,000 signatures.  Terri Lynn Land filed her 25,000 for Senate.

Great Lakes, Great Times.


The address is less than half a mile (as the crow flies) from where I grew up (0.00 / 0)
Don't know anything about the name, although if he be a Republican living in that part of the state, odds are very high that he be a king hell loon.

Among the Trees

[ Parent ]
... (4.00 / 2)
Because Walberg is just too liberal!

[ Parent ]
Brownstown Township Supervisor Andy Linko (D) (4.00 / 1)
filed to run against Pat Somerville (R) in the 23rd House District in Downriver Wayne County.

Strong candidate.

Great Lakes, Great Times.


Let's hope... (4.00 / 1)
...that he puts in more effort than Boritzki did 2 years ago. Linko definitely has the name recognition in that district as well as campaign experience.

If the Dems ever have any hope of winning back the House, this seat needs to become Blue. Somerville will raise money and work hard, but only beat Boritzki (who I believe had no prior experience other than being in the UAW) by less than 500 votes.

I'd still prefer a younger, motivated candidate in that district to outwork the Republicans, but I think Linko is strong.  


[ Parent ]
Tom Boritzki (0.00 / 0)
had also been Mayor of Trenton back in the day.

But your points still stand.

Great Lakes, Great Times.


[ Parent ]
Bernero Trying to Take Jabs at Byrum. (0.00 / 0)
"My decision on whether or not to run for Congress will not be made in Washington and it won't even be influenced by Washington," said Bernero, who lost his gubernatorial bid to Republican Rick Snyder in 2010. "It will be made right here in the district."

From The Detroit News: http://www.detroitnews.com/art...

Great Lakes, Great Times.


Which is worse? (0.00 / 0)
I don't know what's more frightening, Bernero and Byrum challenging for the congressional seat or watching DCCC screw things up in what appears to me to be a clumsily executed attempt to clear the field for Byrum.  

Recall the DCCC's fine job handling things in the 11th CD where they recruited Bobby McKenzie and then dropped him when Jocelyn Benson emerged as a possible candidate and now own a crowded primary field of Dems and no frontrunner. DCCC's execution sucks. Will it be better with Byrum?  Doesn't look like it.  It's certainly arguable that Barb Byrum would be the better candidate than Bernero, particularly if Emily's List signs on. But instead of treating Bernero with some dignity they are trying to steamroll Byrum through, no doubt promising a bunch of shit that will never likely happen.  Yes, there's the April 22 filing deadline to consider, but what about two plane tickets to DC instead of one? Frustrating.  


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You likely know more than I about the situation. (0.00 / 0)
Judging from his quote in the paper, however, Mayor Bernero is railing about the prospect of the DCCC meeting with one of the candidates.  Since I have no clue if Barb Byrum requested the meeting or vice versa, it is hard to make much presumption about field-clearing... but why can't Bernero meet with the DCCC, as well?  From the sound of his quote, he wouldn't even if they wanted.

Great Lakes, Great Times.

[ Parent ]
How it works (0.00 / 0)
DCCC decides who to promote and it doesn't usually get ahead of the Dem congressional delegation.  How it executes this is what's the problem.  Ideally you want unity behind the choice, and unity doesn't ever seem to be a priority with DCCC.  

[ Parent ]
Barb Byrum initiated the meeting (0.00 / 0)
Barb is the one that initiated the meeting with the DCCC to see if they'll give her any support if she decides to go for it.  It was a smart move on her part - they haven't been involved in the 8th since Rogers won the seat.  They didn't steamroll Byrum through either - I don't think Bernero is really interested in running.  He could have done the same thing - gone to DC and asked to meet with them.

[ Parent ]
Square Deal Sam (4.00 / 1)
I wonder why the DCCC is trying to elbow Virg out of the race before he gets in. I mean, I'm all for competitive primaries, but Virg was also the head of the ticket in 2010, when Democrats got absolutely smoked statewide because they couldn't get voters to turn out. Why on Earth would anyone want to avoid repeating that? This is beyond the fact that Byrum, as a lifelong resident of a farming community, has broader appeal to both women and independent rural voters.

Among the Trees

[ Parent ]
Not about Bernero (0.00 / 0)
It's about how you effectively manage politics. My comment wasn't about the choice but the execution. It doesn't help Byrum to bigfoot Bernero.  It's just stupid. And avoidable.  

[ Parent ]
It does if he was going to wind up annoying everyone (0.00 / 0)
[ Parent ]
Byrum is not bigfooting Berner (0.00 / 0)
I don't think he's really interested in running.  She's exploring her options if she decides to run.  He could have done the same thing however I am glad he's not running as he's too much of a lightning rod.

[ Parent ]
In fairness, though... (0.00 / 0)
When we lose an election, it's easy to blame the top of the ticket.

Sometimes, it's also wrong.

Given everything that happened (including such a late entry into the gov race following a year of folks thinking Cherry would be the nominee), I ask: What could Virg have done differently?

Now on Great Lakes, Great Times, Great Scott: The Grand Rapids Press, which rarely endorses Democrats, backs Winnie Brinks


[ Parent ]
Not saying that he should run (0.00 / 0)
...nor am I saying that he'd be good.

Just wondering if there's some legitimate reason Virg gets blamed by some for what happened in 2010 - or if folks are just blaming him because he was the guy on the top of the ticket.

Now on Great Lakes, Great Times, Great Scott: The Grand Rapids Press, which rarely endorses Democrats, backs Winnie Brinks


[ Parent ]
I think Bernero will back down soon. (0.00 / 0)
Not only do I think Byrum is more likeable and has broader appeal in that district, I think when Dems even think of Bernero they think of that horrible election of 2010.

However, I'm not totally sure Bernero will be content as Mayor of Lansing for long. I'm not surprised he is considering this, but I don't see him being a very effective legislator.  


[ Parent ]
Still SMH at their recruitment of McKenzie (4.00 / 1)
I can see the DCCC rejecting Dr. Anil Kumar for reasons that are both quite rational (the last Indian-born doctor we nominated lost to Kerry Bentivolio(!) for an open seat) and more than a little racist (rejecting an Indian-born doctor primarily because of his racial heritage).

What confuses me is where they came to the conclusion that Bobby McKenzie was the best possible option after Dian Slavens and Jocelyn Benson passed.

The best case scenario involves a GOP implosion and the fervent hope that no one ever asks why a currently unemployed 39-year-old lifelong bachelor with no prior political experience -- who can't talk about where he was or what he did between 1999 and 2013 except in the vaguest possible terms, and who apparently never even voted in the State of Michigan (at least as far back as the VAN goes) -- is qualified to represent us in Congress.

Bobby's not a bad person, and he is certainly game to see this thing through -- but if he's our pick against Bentivolio or Trott, we could lose by 20 points, hurting every other candidate in the District.

"The two most common elements in the universe are hydrogen and stupidity." ~ Harlan Ellison


[ Parent ]
McKenzie has gone out of his way to say nothing of substance (4.00 / 1)
His website doesn't tell you where he stands on labor rights, the minimum wage, health care, or Social Security--all of which are issues Democrats care a lot about. In fact, his website doesn't even identify him as a Democrat.

What I do see on McKenzie's website is a lot of consultant-generated PowerPoint pablum about economic growth and opportunity. Oh, and Mrs. Dudgeon gets an email every other day asking for money.

Color me unimpressed with this guy.

A government that robs Peter to pay Paul can always count on the support of Paul.


[ Parent ]
Nothingburger (4.00 / 2)
This is being overplayed.  Bernero will not run if Byrum does.  Virg is trying to keep his name out there as he usually does, nothing more than that.  This isn't another Bernero-Dillon situation, and I hope folks are careful enough not to make this bigger than it is.  The Lansing City Pulse reported in this weeks issue that even Virg's own polling (which will be out no later than Friday) likely shows Byrum comfortably ahead.

This is Barb's to lose, and I think it's also premature to just assume that she's made her decision to run.


[ Parent ]
Well then (0.00 / 0)
He says his decision "will be made right here in the district."

In other words, he has already made a decision not to run - and he was in the 8th District when he made that decision. ;-)

(Yes, add me to the growing list of folks who think he won't actually take the plunge.)

Now on Great Lakes, Great Times, Great Scott: The Grand Rapids Press, which rarely endorses Democrats, backs Winnie Brinks


[ Parent ]
... (0.00 / 0)
He already said he won't on his Facebook page, a little after 8 a.m. today: "So much is broken about Washington that it is tempting for me to contemplate a future trying to fix it. But my heart and my creative energies are committed to Lansing and its continued growth. I will not seek the open 8th district congressional seat this year. Many thanks to each of my supporters who weighed in on this matter."

[ Parent ]
I was right, and I didn't even have to cheat, LOL (nt) (0.00 / 0)
[ Parent ]

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