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TC Record Eagle hints Sen Jason Allen is Corrupt

by: chanupi

Mon Apr 24, 2006 at 09:47:21 AM EDT


(Ahhh the culture of corruption - promoted by Jon Koller)

Of course he's corrupt.  He's a Republican.

A "down state" developer/Allen campaign contributor gets special favors in local Traverse City development bid.  And no remembers how that might have happened:

Ask Traverse City officials for details on why an alternate parking deck proposed for West Front Street won't work and prepare to hear chapter and verse. They can provide dates when all this was discussed, facts and figures, state brownfield rules, who said what to whom and when.

Ask those same city officials about state Sen. Jason Allen's role in quashing the alternative plan, and it's amnesia time. Nobody remembers nuttin'. Including Allen.

That's simply not credible, of course. They remember. A handful of insiders — including a couple of people who draw their paychecks from the city — know what was said to whom and when. They know precisely the political pressure brought to bear on a local developer to withdraw his plan. They know the details.

But they're not saying. And they're certainly not letting city voters in on the act.

It's a tale of selective memory and downright misinformation designed to cover the fact that a state politician with links to a downstate developer derailed a competing proposal.

OK...first of all, Traverse City just built a parking garage, right downtown (with a great view of the bay, btw).  There is no study to see if there is even any need for this parking structure.

Then Republican Sen. Jason Allen (D37- Corrupt) pushed out a local developer to favor a campaign contributor.

Jason must be shooting for a job in the U.S. Congress.  That's where the real money is made, eh Jason?  Well, I think it's time he was sent back to Captain's Quarters (Jason fit my tux for the prom--he was good at it--he should do it some more).

(I would like to thank Matt's news aggregator at the top for pointing out this story--this was a dinner table disscusion when I was at my parents' house in TC last week!)

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"Of course he's corrupt.  He's a republican."

Can you be a bit more mature.  Not all republicans are corrupt and neither are all democrats saints.

Rick


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Pray for the dead, fight like hell for the living. - Mother Jones

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Good bye then.  I won't waste me time on this website. 

And I am very, very anti-Bush, a Move On volunteer, etc, etc.

Rick


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Pretty standard stuff (0.00 / 0)
Oh look Chanupi, your obvious hyperbole has pissed off an anti-Bush Move On.org volunteer.

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Oh well... (0.00 / 0)
his loss.

Pray for the dead, fight like hell for the living. - Mother Jones

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Another GBCW post! (0.00 / 0)
Two in one week. Wow.

I guess we need to send some folks over to Kos to learn about snark and pie wars. You'd think these people had never been on a political forum before.

Maybe they haven't, I don't know. What are they expecting?

All I know is they wouldn't last two seconds anywhere else, either.


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At the risk of sounding like quite the fool, what is GBCW?

(I can spell it, but I can't use it in a sentence)


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Good Bye Cruel World (0.00 / 0)
I had to look it up myself. It's apparently what someone writes when they plan on leaving a blog or forum forever.

"Never give in. Never give in. Never, never, never, never." - Winston S. Churchill

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ahh... (0.00 / 0)
And I was so certain it was "Great Big" something, but I just couldn't get C & W!  :)

Thanks!


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Sorry 'bout that. (0.00 / 0)
Yes, it is an announcement that "you all suck, I'm leaving", designed to make other people feel bad.

I've hung around political forums for around 7 years now (probably why I'm half insane), and believe me, y'all ain't seen nothing here as to how bad it can really get.

I've seen some really horrendous behavior- threats of violence, people posting very graphic pictures, etc. I guess I'm a bit surprised that a few here are just so offended- they are going to find that online political experiences are not for them. If they can't handle this place, they won't be able to handle the others, I guarantee it.

Send them over to the Detroit News comments for awhile- all kinds of fun mud-slinging going on over there.

Daily Kos and MichLib are very civil compared to a lot of places. 


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I'm no fan of Jason Allens politics, he doesn't represent my views, but I know from personal experience that this Record Eagle article says a lot more about the Record Eagle than it does about Jason Allen or his ethics. 

For reasons known only to itself this newspaper insists on injecting itself into public policy debates in a manner that seems designed to cause the most harm and shed the least light.  They're like a sarcastic and smarmy college sophmore who was given the keyboard for a day, except that they spew their tabloid crap day after day with no relation to facts. 

Just because they're beating up on somebody whose policies you don't like doesn't make the newspaper correct, ethical, or honest.  Please don't take too much pleasure in their brand of yellow journalism, becasue "if they'll do it with you, they'll do it to you."



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Oh, and to speak to the posters claims / issues:

>>OK...first of all, Traverse City just built a parking garage, right downtown (with a great view of the bay, btw).  There is no study to see if there is even any need for this parking structure.

I suppose the above statement is factually correct, but it's not accurate from the standpoint of intent or public policy, in 1997 the city, after broad public debate, passed a TIF plan, which called for a parking deck on that very site.

>>Then Republican Sen. Jason Allen (D37- Corrupt) pushed out a local developer to favor a campaign contributor.

The above statement would be a delightful and rich statement on the abysmal state of public service if it were true, in reality the local developer Gerald Snowden whined that "he wasn't getting state brownfield money" and the Record Eagle jumped on that as a sign of corruption, not to notice that the parking deck developer had worked for months with the state to get a brownfield approval, and Snowden didn't have a workable plan.  It was a simple case of a competitor whining and the newspaper jumping on half truths to try to make points.


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I have updated info. and didn't want to leave a factual error, I don't actually know why the Record Eagle went after the Federated Project, Mr. Snowden has made a series of statements that bring my overstatement of "whining for brownfield dollars" into question, so I'd like to withdraw it. There is a perfectly good chance that Mr. Snowden was a bystander to this process, in any case he's not the issue here, it's the ease with which folks sieze on negative reports about those with whom they disagree or mistrust, from the very same sources (newspaper) that they know to be acting in bad faith on other subjects. Sorry Jerry Snowden, I think I overstated my case. Until the Record Eagle decides to seperate their news and opinion divisions the community will be subjected to this type of yellow journalism. Regards

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Thanks for the correction David Hoekje. I was quite shocked and disappointed when I first saw your submission on this website two weeks ago. It was factually wrong on two counts..developer Gerald Snowden "whined that he wasn't getting state brownfield money" and that "Snowden didn't have a workable plan". Both comments were completely false.
For you to post publically such unfactual information under the guise of it being factual was no different than what you charge the Record Eagle of doing. Furthermore, as you are a member of the city planning commision I thought it was irresponsible and showed very poor judgement on your part. The community must rely on its public officials to set good examples and to show good judgement at all times. We expect those in your position to make decisions based on facts and to be fair and objective. Your submission did neither. I can only hope it didn't hurt my reputation with those that don't know me or with those that didn't know the facts. That said, I accept your apology.    


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