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Dingell town hall on health care may disrupted by rightwing thugs

by: kjbas58

Tue Aug 04, 2009 at 11:42:07 AM EDT

U.S. Rep. John Dingell, D-Dearborn, is holding a health care town hall at 6 p.m. Thursday at the Romulus Athletic Center, 35765 Northline Road in Romulus, and there are plans by right wing thugs, stealthy organized by a rightwing lobbyist group, to disrupt the meeting.

MSNBC host Rachel Maddow reported last night on a plan by the Washington, DC-based, rightwing think tank and lobbying firm Freedom Works, chaired by former U.S. House Majority Leader and rightwing Republican Dick Armey, to disrupt town hall meetings as members of Congress return to the district for summer break and meet with constituents. You may remember this group from their organization of the so-called "tea parties" with another rightwing lobbying group, Americans for Prosperity (AFP).

Maddow reported on a leaked memo from a Freedom Works lobbyist that has a script and instructions on how to shout down the speaker, intimidate anyone objecting and how to disrupt the meeting.

I saw some of that this weekend by a similar group also targeting Dingell at the Monroe County Fair parade. The protest fizzled, but they were attempting to use similar tactics. Dingell is a prime target because he has been a champion for health care in his long public career. At the beginning of every session of Congress since 1955, Congressman Dingell introduced the national health insurance bill, just like his father before him did.

Maddow played videos of Democratic Congressmen getting leading questions, and when they tried to answer them they were shouted down and the mob refused to let them answer. The mob shouted down the lawmaker trying to speak, as well as anyone asking a legitimate question.

Dingell's town hall meeting is already being advertised on some rightwing blogs here in Michigan, and it's clear that these mobs are not interested in hearing what he has to say or even to have a civil debate. In fact, they even have a Facebook event page where they brag about disrupting past meetings. The thugs will try to do the same thing in Michigan.

We need to get supporters there or people who are neutral and just want some answers and are willing to act like decent human beings.

The meeting is set for 6 p.m. Thursday Aug. 6 at the Romulus Athletic Center, 35765 Northline Road in Romulus

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We're not hired thugs - we're just really angry
I am offended deeply that Democrats have to lie about who honest Americans are.  I am not paid by anyone to stand up for my rights and oppose this administration.  I am very upset about the waste in Washington.  I too, was not happy with some things that Bush was doing, and am not happy with most of what Obama is doing.  Is the concept of free thought totally unknown to those who closely side with democrat philosophies?  Why is it so hard to believe that a person is against a government controlled healthcare system but in favor of changes that could reduce costs, hold providers more accountable and reduce mal-practice costs?  The problem with healthcare is not that the government isn't involved enough, it is that the individual is too far disconnected from costs.  The people need to be guaranteed a quote in writing by doctors just like they would expect from any other service provider in any other industry.  Currently the consumer can not even find out how much a procedure will cost in advance.  The market can not regulate itself when the consumer does not bear some portion of or at least have an up front awareness of the cost.  Also, many Doctors pay almost as much for malpractice insurance as they get to take home after expenses.  These are the problems with healthcare.  House Bill 3200 (the "healthcare" bill, read it sometime) does nothing to address this.  If you find otherwise, please let me know.  Also.  It is not our job to listen to "Representatives" and Senators.  It is their job to listen to us!  That's why we, or you, hired them.  The citizens rule this land, not the government, and I want it to stay that way.

Currently the consumer can not even find out how much a procedure will cost in advance.

Yes, you can.  There are entire Web sites devoted to providing you the cost of various medical procedures at various hospitals, and they include quality-control information, as well.

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If the shoe fits
I'm sorry you are offended, but neither I nor the Democrats are lying about anything. No one ever said you were paid to disrupt the townhalls and act like thugs; what I said was it has been documented that well-paid rightwing Republican lobbyists are stirring up people with lies and trying to make it look like a grassroots effort when it is not. They even have scripts to tell you how to disrupt the meeting. Are you denying that?

The fact is if you go and act like the people who were at the townhall meetings highlighted on MSNBC then you are a thug.

Well, I was not happy at all with almost anything Bush did, especially where thousands of servicemen and women died for no valid reason, but I never went to a townhall and tried to intimidate my Congressman, Mike Rogers.

I'll ask you the same question, is the concept of free thought totally unknown to those who closely side with Republican philosophies?  It's you that are being manipulated by highly paid lobbyists for the health care insurers that are spending $1.4 million a day to protect profits like the 155 percent from just a year ago turned in by health insurance giant United Health Group Inc.

Are you serous? Life and death decisions should be based on a written estimate? You're talking about humans here, not a brake job. I'm not buying the malpractice insurance talking point.

I want to listen to my elected official, not you. I didn't vote for you. By the way, the citizens are the government

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From what I've seen...
The right wing and other assorted loons were out in force tonight.

It's sad, really.  Sort of like watching the deathblow to civil debate.  These people aren't coming to express their dissatisfaction, they're coming to just kill the discussion, period.  It's especially sad because supporters and people who are genuinely skeptical and as a result have real questions can't show their support or ask their questions at all...they get heckled or shouted down instead.

(Of course, according to Channel 4, "both sides" were shouting each other down when the hecklers appeared to outnumber the pro-reform people by at least 3 or 4 to one...I wonder how that worked unless the reformers had bullhorns...)

My old high school civics teacher would be mortified.

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