GOP - That's Saul You Have Left??

Martin Scorcese??? (0.00 / 0)

Good grief.

OK, Michael Moore makes sense, I guess; he's been the GOP's whipping boy since Fahrenheit 911 (well, before that, but that's when they went into a frenzy about him).

On the other hand, he's also a hometown boy--I don't think he's considered as much of a boogyman here in his home state as he would be in, say, Wyoming.

Madonna? Again, makes sense in some ways (offensive to the Puritan crowd), but...again, Local Girl Makes Good, ya know?

Geoffrey Fieger? Ouch--ok, they got us there. Dunno what others think of the guy, but I admit that he's not the most likeable example of the Democratic Party.

The one that really throws me, though, is...Martin Scorcese??

Didn't know he was a Democrat, though I'm glad to hear it. Didn't know he had any particular connection to Michigan, to Granholm, or to politics whatsoever, for that matter, though.

Yeah, he makes extremely violent movies, I suppose, but so do Schwartzenegger and Gibson, and we know where they stand...one of 'em is even guv of California (which Republicans supposedly hate--L.A., Hollywood, etc...)

Seriously, what's the deal with Martin Scorcese being listed there? It's like they picked a famous name out of a hat.

Meanwhile--Ok, Dobson & Hannity make sense for DeVos...but I've never even heard of the other two. Clue me in?

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by: Brainwrap @ Thu Nov 02, 2006 at 22:59:24 PM CST

Scorcese was named of the 5 greatest directors of all time (4.00 / 1)

DeVos, on the other hand, is one of the 5 emptiest suits ever to seek statewide office.

Please read "Out of Iraq: A Practical Plan for Withdrawal Now" by George McGovern and William R. Polk.

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by: Hy Dudgeon @ Thu Nov 02, 2006 at 23:12:15 PM CST

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Re: Devos "is one of the 5 emptiest suits . . ." (0.00 / 0)

Hy Dudgeon,

Thanks for using the "empty suit" description of DeVos because that's along the lines of what I was thinking about the four people on his side of the ledger at least in contrast to the four supposedly on the Granholm side. I looked at the lists and wondered why the DeVos side was supposed to be the swell people. Three of the four on Granholm's side are artists (broadly understood) and all four are "characters" of one sort of another, like them or not. The DeVos side is like snoresville daddy-o (at best).

I read John Dean's latest book recently and he characterizes Chuck Colson as one of his "authoritarian" personalities (empty suit + idea that empty suit is a virtue) and I'm not sure that all three of the rest on this side don't fit that description either. It's as if DeVos wants to align himself with those who make a virtue out of not thinking independently and to malign those who march to their own drummers. He probably played hooky from Thoreau as with much of his track record concerning education.

It's one thing to question a politician who represents many different people for marching to his or her own drummer, but if you line up four people who all march to their own drummers and then slide them in under a single politician such as Granholm, what that says to me is she makes a nice unity from diversity. I'm definitely NOT the target audience of this campaign literature! I don't think anyone who sees the DeVos 4 as clearly superior to the Granholm 4 was ever "in danger" of voting for Granholm in the first place.

"We are the music-makers, and we are the dreamers of dreams" -Arthur O'Shaughnessy

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by: Michael Motta @ Sun Nov 05, 2006 at 04:17:47 AM CST

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With Dick (4.00 / 1)

Barb Listing is the head of Right to Life.

Chuck Colson was a mean, unprincipled, Nixon staffer who is now a convicted felon for his association with Watergate. He's now a mean, bible thumping right-wing talk show host who found religion in prison.

I don't get the Scorsese identifcation either.

A reminder that Michael Moore is not only a Michigan native, but also served the entire term he was elected to on his local school board.

Geoffrey Fieger - say what you will about his style, but he's a good attorney and he does support progressive causes.

Madonna - I've never met her, but she sure has a good business sense - somthing Amway Guy does not.

"The truth is rarely pure and never simple." The Importance of Being Earnest, Act I, Oscar Wilde, 1895

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by: Cordelia Lear @ Thu Nov 02, 2006 at 23:12:45 PM CST

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Thanks for filling me in. (0.00 / 0)

n/a

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by: Brainwrap @ Thu Nov 02, 2006 at 23:32:14 PM CST

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EUREKA!! My wife figured it out for me... (4.00 / 1)

...Scorcese directed "The Last Temptation of Christ"!!

That must be it.

Of course, that was 18 years ago, and hardly anyone even saw the damned movie, but I guess that's the connection...?

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by: Brainwrap @ Thu Nov 02, 2006 at 23:59:39 PM CST

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Chuck Colson (0.00 / 0)

A hilarious choice, especially if you know anything about him.

He was one of Nixon's original fixers, sentenced to prison for his role in Watergate-related activities, where he experienced a religious awakening.

These days, he's a run-of-the-mill religious conservative who writes a column.  You can find it at Townhall.com, where he's waiting patiently for Jesus to return and Rapture away the righteous.  Here's a link to his Wiki page:

http://en.wikipedia....

Here's to his archived set of columns on Townhall:

http://www.townhall....

For a campaign that's trying to minimize DeVos' ties to religious conservatives, aligning him in a mailing with the likes of Dobson and Colson is an odd strategy.

Among the Trees

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by: Eric B. @ Fri Nov 03, 2006 at 09:25:24 AM CST

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The story on Saul... (0.00 / 0)

... is that he is going to be asked to resign after Tuesday. We will see more on this out soon....

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by: Hector Solon @ Fri Nov 03, 2006 at 07:25:32 AM CST

I just heard Madonna (0.00 / 0)

On the canned music at Meijers.

Must be Fred Meijer doesn't support "our values".

Heathen.

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by: wizardkitten @ Fri Nov 03, 2006 at 09:50:21 AM CST

Thank you (4.00 / 1)

Wizard Kitten. Your comment made me laugh out loud. I'm still laughing while I am watching the entire Republican  party implode. There's no end to the corruption news. I have to keep laughing because the tragic amount of damage they have done is enough to push me to despair. Gotta have hope...gotta have hope.

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by: mrsjones @ Fri Nov 03, 2006 at 17:43:55 PM CST

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I aim to please :-) (4.00 / 1)

And I'm on a roller coaster of hope and despair. It changes daily.

Next Tuesday will tell if people are ready to start healing this country, or if they will continue to embrace the kind of leaders that bring about the divisiveness and policies that hurt us all.

Make it emphatic, vote Democratic!

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by: wizardkitten @ Fri Nov 03, 2006 at 18:38:56 PM CST

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Michael Moore represents my values. (4.00 / 1)

Looking out for labor?  Questioning authority?  Speaking the truth even when it's unpopular?  Hell yeah he represents my values!

As for Sean Hannity:

Looking out for the rich, telling the poor they're lazy, equating an American political ideology with terrorism?  Blind compliance to Bush?  These are not my values.

Putting conservatives in charge of our government makes about as much sense as GM hiring a CEO who hates cars.

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by: djtyg @ Fri Nov 03, 2006 at 22:33:32 PM CST

Forgot to add.... (4.00 / 1)

Michael Moore also makes me proud to be from Michigan.  James Dobson doesn't.

Putting conservatives in charge of our government makes about as much sense as GM hiring a CEO who hates cars.

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by: djtyg @ Fri Nov 03, 2006 at 22:34:26 PM CST

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