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Tim Skubick: Let's Bash Granholm for Everything! Again! And Again! And...

by: quaker21

Sun Jan 14, 2007 at 00:49:52 AM EST


( - promoted by Hazen Pingree)

Good Lord, Tim Skubick is still a loser.  In the latest Off the Record, Skoob tries to nail Granholm between the eyes (from the comfort of his ivory tower of course) about her bi-partisan budget panel.  "THE DECK IS STACKED!!!"  "WHERE'S THE OVERSIGHT!?!?"  "WHY AREN'T BUSINESS LEADERS THERE?!?!"

Heaven forbid the Governor might want to shut the doors for some time to think.  After all, the Republican legislature shut the doors in her face and didn't think when they decided it would be a fun stunt to kill the SBT and get us in this mess in the first place.

Thankfully, the panel -- Dawson Bell, Kathy Barks Hoffman, and Bill Ballenger -- weren't buying (most) of Skubick's omnipresent Granholm bash-fest. 

And Barks Hoffman came back and hit Timmeh square between the eyes with her own little gem.

quaker21 :: Tim Skubick: Let's Bash Granholm for Everything! Again! And Again! And...
Skubick:  "Well here's her -- here's [Granholm's] problem: let's assume that she goes there to raise the tax.  And she goes on the road to sell it.  Where is the smoking gun?  When she says to the electorate 'We cut three billion dollars from the budget already.  We can't cut another billion because the sky will fall.'  The last time I checked, the sky is still up over Michigan.  Where's the smoking gun where all these budget cuts have just ravaged our state?  Does she have one?"

Barks Hoffman:  "Well, Tim -- you know -- you're not paying in-state college tuition because your daughter's going to school out-of-state.  But all in-state college tuitions -- they went up over 10% there for a while."

[...]

Skubick: "I'll give you that -- but where are all the bodies in the street?"

[emphasis added]

Bodies in the street.  Well, I can't point you to many of those, but I can point to some potholes, Skubick.  And I'm sure there will be many-a-more if JG pulls out that additional $1bn.  The sky will still be there, of course.  Profound point.

Watch the inanity here.

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Apparently you have a problem with the DEAN OF CAPITOL CORRESPONDENTS (0.00 / 0)
and his divine right to plant the suggestion that the minimum threshold for a tax increase--which is to say, what has to happen before Skubick's corporate owners would agree that someone other than them should be taxed more (since they will never agree that they themselves should be): 

Bodies in the street.

I think we should start calling him Tim "Killer" Skubick.


The bodies went to the voting booth (0.00 / 0)
last November.

The Gov won a significant enough percentage of the vote to say she has a mandate.

Think about that the next time you're sitting in the repair shop waiting for them to finish your next front end alignment Tim-meh. Ahh - the humanity of those potholes.

"The truth is rarely pure and never simple." The Importance of Being Earnest, Act I, Oscar Wilde, 1895


Banty Rooster (0.00 / 0)

Years ago we used to raise a couple of banty roosters as colerful noisy pets to strut about the barnyard. They can be feisty, are about ΒΌ the size of a regular chicken, but were harmless.

In a way Tim Skubic should be viewed in that perspective - noisy, colorful show host who is in most part there for entertainment. Granholm will know how to handle him just like she did DeVos who was another banty rooster. For a while he got the stage, but she clipped his wings. I do not think Tim will be much of a challenge for her.


The Skoob is a Hopeless case... (0.00 / 0)
...consider him a lost soul.

As far as Kathy Barks-Hoffman, now there's a journalist who's not only smart, and on the ball - but she gets us, as in us, the bloggers. From what I can tell, most journalists who aren't stuck with their head in the sand like Skooby Doo are with her. But like I said, some are just hopeless.

I've had an opportunity to speak with her several times, and she definitely never fell for the soap and hope charm of the Crown Prince of Amway.

My vote is we move Kathy to Lansing and ship Timmeh out. Any takers??

I want to change the world, not help people adjust to it. - Millie Jeffrey, MI - National Women's labor and Democratic activist, Presidential Medal of Freedom Recipient


Ship him out (4.00 / 2)
It seems like Stupick is auditioning for the Detroit News anyway. He would fit right in with the editorial staff there.

The end of the human race will be that it will eventually die of civilization.

 - Ralph Waldo Emerson


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The bodies are leaving Michigan.... in droves (2.67 / 3)
I can answer Tim's question about "where are all the bodies in the street?" .... the bodies left Michigan for a better value in college tuition and more tolerance.

He's not helping, shoving the fork deeper into the wound.


It's the truth (0.00 / 0)
and sometimes the truth hurts.

I love it here--the gorgeous landscape, the history, and my lifelong friends--but Michigan is perilously close to becoming Wingnut Central like the Old South.  If that's not true, then why did the last two Proposal 2s (affirmative action and benefits for same-sex couples) pass by such an overwhelming margin?

The battle of East vs. West in Michigan gets wearying.  Frequently.  If I were GLBT, I would have put my things in a U-Haul and hauled ass out of here for New York or San Francisco a long time ago.

As it is, I prefer not to mince words about what we on the left are up against here.


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Hilarious (0.00 / 0)
Does anyone have an idea of what smoking gun he's talking about?

Among the Trees

he's a reactionary (0.00 / 0)
not really a traditional conservative, but he believes that action should be taken based on events (especially the events he covers in the news).  eg. if the gov is responsible for somebodies death, we should fire her, if not, lets keep her on.

he can't rationalize that somebody can plan for the next year.  why should we ever have a tax increase while the state is solvent?


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Tim Skubick Ugh! (4.00 / 6)
One of the main reasons Tim (and I his former wife (#2)and mother of said daughter)can afford her going out of state to college is I arm twisted Tim to enroll her in MET when Blanchard first set up the program.  Still, the cheapskate wanted our daughter to stay in Michigan for college because it would have been cheaper for the scrooge to pay his share.  I made up my mind she was going wherever her heart desired and if he wasn't willing to kick in his fair share (he earns 4x what I earn) then I would just have to take out loans or do whatever to make it happen.  But I digress.

I'm surprised he conceded the point to Kathy BH since he would not be paying any more for college if his daughter went to school in Michigan BECAUSE I got him to enroll her in the MET. He does not feel the pain of regular citizens because he makes way more than working stiffs and he likes to stiff others (like his own daughter when he cashed in her savings bonds (from his mom)last summer to pay for her car repairs instead of coughing up the bucks he could well afford.  He is a cheapskate, a liar and more.  Thus, whatever he has to say on OTR is of no use to me since he can't be trusted to be honest and true.

Do I sound resentful after all these divorced years...yes.  I could say so much more but "trust me"...one of his favorite phrases...he can't be trusted in any way shape or form.


Thank you sharing! (0.00 / 0)
And offering great context to the quoted comment. :)

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Skubic (1.00 / 2)
Skubic's hardly a right-winger, by any definition.  I guess you guys just can't take any criticism for your favored politicians.  This the second time this week an ML diary attacked Skubic.

I guess, for a reporter, when you get attacked by both sides, you're doing your job well.

"You can't handle the truth."


Don't be an idiot (4.00 / 3)
The problem with Skubick is that, like a dead whale decomposing on the beach, he doesn't do his job even as he attracts so much attention that people don't realize that they are missing the important stories that the lazy whale is not reporting.

Skubick is a lazy insider who has completely lost any sense of identification with readers; he has nothing but contempt for regular citizens, which is palpable in his hit pieces where he criticizes voters for their ignorance--even as he wastes his column and his TV show by covering only the horserace/style aspect of issues, never the substance.

As for disliking Skubick because he attacks "favored politicians," I invite you to peruse MichiganLiberal.com for a while--you'll see that real liberals have plenty to attack Granholm, Stabenow, and Levin et al. about, and some of us do so.  But Skubick's criticisms are simply nonsense--he attacks them first for falling afoul of his stereotypes and then for NOT doing so.  Meanwhile, real issues analysis is completely absent from Skubick's work.


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I sincerely hope you're being facetious... (4.00 / 5)
... but judging by your comment record, I doubt you are.

Look.

Plain and simple: Tim Skubick has a powerful voice as far as Michigan politics is concerned.  I hate to admit it, but it's true.  Who else got to really cover the MI Gov race?  Who else was able to write a book about it?

Tim Skubick.

And he does no justice to the political and policy issues that affect Michiganians.  Instead of reporting on the stalling tactics of the MI-GOP, he will write an editorial on why his "Did you murder Ricky Holland?" comment to the Governor was apropos.  Instead of talking about filling the gap in the budget to the SBT, he'd rather take pot-shots against Michigan Liberal on MIRS.

He does a disservice to the people of Michigan, and betrays the (self-appointed) position that he represents.

You have NO idea how discouraging it is as a 16-18 year old Michiganian to have your only editorail content on Michigan politics to be represented by Tim Skubick.

You have NO idea how is is to be a member of the LGBT community when all Skubick can do is bash Granholm, even when Proposal 2 (2004) is affecting people just like me.

You have NO idea how it is to have a grandmother in the decaying east side neighborhood of Lansing, when Tim Skubick sits in an ivory tower of downtown Lansing and a comfy home in Okemos, and bring on "business leaders" to talk with -- and agree with -- their positions that increasing tax revenue is a horrendous idea, when cutting the budget (police, fire, education) is implicitly a better alternative.

I don't care if he's a clown, or a charicature to us on the left.  Tim Skubick betrays the people for whom he corresponds.  He can talk all he wants about how deplorable it is to turn politics into a horserace... he still manages to only talk about it in terms of a horserace.  The ballots were barely cast in '06 when Skubick decided to talk about candidates for 2010.

It's not about being unable to accept criticsm.  It's about telling a political "analyst" (and I mean that in the greatest shadow of the term) to stop jerking with people's lives and start talking about the lives that these policies represent.

Granholm -- to me -- has always represented the underdog.  Even as a successful, savvy politician, she has stayed true to the people of Michigan.  It comes with some sacrifice.  The news isn't always rosy.  But it's a damn world away from the ivory tower of people like Tim Skubick who makes a living off of fear, sensationalism, and the corny books that he deigns to pen for a quick buck on the backs of born and bred Michiganians who hope and hold out for something better.

In these tough times, critique is warranted.  His bullshit masquareded as "analysis" is not.  So he can crawl back into the hole from whence he came -- I really don't care.  Get him off my LSJ, get him off my local TV, and get someone who is passionate about making a change.  About building Michigan.  About understanding Michigan.  And not just about the day-to-day bull that is vomited across the Capitol floor.

That is what I want.  And as it stands, Tim Skubick is in no way a part of that vision.  He is no better than a leech who sucks off whatever news item that may make him relevant.  There need be no carpetbaggers in Michigan -- whether you were born here, or not.  Be a part of the solution, or stand at the sidelines, booing and hissing like the Tim Skubicks of the world.  It does nobody one iota of good.

I've spoken my peace and I stand by it.  I stand by Michigan.  I stand by my hometown.  I don't stand with the transient representatives that we choose to elect.  And the Skubicks of the world better damn well remember that.

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Attacked by both sides (4.00 / 3)
I guess, for a reporter, when you get attacked by both sides, you're doing your job well.

This is what they say, but it's predicated on not getting the story wrong in the first place.

Tim Skubick does a very good job at covering internal Lansing politics.  He's an insider who writes pretty well about what's going on inside Lansing.

When he steps outside of that, as he's done a few times, he's not getting it right if he's attacked on multiple fronts.  It could be that he just doesn't know what he's talking about.

Take his assertion that voters went with Granholm because of the China ads.  What's this based on?  The same pollsters and pundits who had the race within the margin of error going into the last days?  Do the China ads explain the Democrats taking the state House?  How about Congress?

The point?  When Tim Skubick sticks to what he knows, he's a good reporter.  When he claims to have an understanding of how state policies affect regular people ... well, it's incredibly apparent to me that he has no clue what life for me is like.

Among the Trees


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